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Post by macintosh on Jun 17, 2013 19:03:01 GMT -5
The wacky-rigged senko bite seems to have started for me... I've started using other brands of worms because I just cant get a yamamoto brand plastic to last more than 1 fish. I seem to catch just as many fish on zoom or yum plastics but not lose quite as many, but Im still losing more than Id like. I'd like to try some of the o-rings and see if they keep from losing so many, not sure where to start.
Do you need one of the o-ring tools, either homemade or purchased?
What size o-ring for a 5" standard size stick worm? Hardware store purchase?
Do you hook them ONLY through the o-ring, or do you hook the worm normally and also catch the o-ring at the same time?
Thanks!
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Post by rgang4 on Jun 17, 2013 19:56:57 GMT -5
Dave, There was a thread back in January or February when everyone was dreaming of fishing about a new o-ring system. Think rvq started it and I think mjh commented at some point too.
The "old" system uses a 6 mm o-ring placed in the middle of the bait. The hook goes between the o-ring and the plastic not thru either. The tool is simply a hollow tube with a large enough inside diameter to accommodate the diameter of the Senko. The o-ring is then placed on the tapered or pointed end and slid up and off onto the Senko. Dick's sells a tool that is very good for about $7.
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Post by macintosh on Jun 17, 2013 20:12:55 GMT -5
I did look up a few threads from early spring, but don't recall much specifics as far as rigging. im sure I can figure it out, just thought I might avoid a bag of plastic worth or trial and error. I did find a link to the wacky saddle oring kit: www.tacklewarehouse.com/searchresults.html?search=products&searchtext=Wacky+saddle&x=18&y=12The local dicks is out of the oring tool, or they are very good at hiding it on me...I looked today. Anyone using orings and have you tried any of the fancy-boy fishing setups like the one linked above? Preference?
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Post by mjh on Jun 19, 2013 18:20:50 GMT -5
Mac, I highly recommend the regular O-ring, not the Wacky Saddle guy. You can purchase the tool (get the rust free tool because mine is metal and has some rust on it) and the o-rings from Northern Bass Supply. The o-rings from them are a lot cheaper than from a hardware store. My experience this year is that I can catch 12 bass with a wacky-Senko. After 12 bass the worm gets ragged and I throw it in my refuse bag for the trip. No Senkos have ended in the Lake this year.
I bought the Wacky Saddle kit. It is a great concept. Like a lot of other things in life going from concept to actual use is harder than it looks. I found it difficult to get the wacky saddle on the Senko properly and it often ended up either too high or too low on the Senko. The Wacky Saddle did not always go on straight and I had to adjust it, weakening the Senko. Then the Senko would sometimes get wrapped around the shank of the hook.
If you get the regular o-ring and tool the whole purchase will pay for itself in one trip. At $6.50-$7.50 for 10 Senkos you will save a lot during the season.
Mike
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Post by macintosh on Jun 19, 2013 18:28:22 GMT -5
Thanks! Great info. Do you hook ONLY the o-ring, or do you run the hook through the worm as usual and just "also" catch the o-ring?
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Post by rgang4 on Jun 19, 2013 21:09:11 GMT -5
Thanks! Great info. Do you hook ONLY the o-ring, or do you run the hook through the worm as usual and just "also" catch the o-ring? Mac, This is the exact tool I use and the illustration looked clear to me for rigging. Hook goes between the worm and the o-ring. www.bassing.co.za/article-central/images/custom-lure4.jpg
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Post by mjh on Jun 20, 2013 10:23:31 GMT -5
Mac, Roy's photo is right on. Insert the Senko into the tube to where you want the o-ring to be situated on the Senko. It can be in the middle of the Senko or slightly lower or higher. Then just roll the o-ring onto the Senko.
When fishing wacky don't set the hook as if you were fishing Texas rigged. Just reel down fast or use a moderate sweeping action with the rod.
I also use pliers to crimp down the barb because sometimes, especially smallies, they will suck the Senko down. Then I use the through the gills technique that rvq (Bob) showed me to safely remove the hook when it is swallowed.
Mike
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Post by schodackbassman on Jun 20, 2013 15:06:49 GMT -5
I'm thinking the O-Ring could be used on a Texas rigged Senko also though I've not tried it yet. Could try one of two ways. Slip the O-Ring on the Senko at the head and rig normally. Or, the probably better way but will be more time consuming is to rig the Senko on the hook, then slip the ring over head/hook at the eye using the tool then tie to the hook. Just a thought.
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Post by rvq on Jun 20, 2013 21:08:31 GMT -5
I would add Fireline Chrystal for the line. No looping and you can see the bites by watching the line. Also, tie on a Gamakatsu shiner hook for a great hook up ratio.
Bob
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Post by Luis Munoz on Apr 25, 2014 20:19:28 GMT -5
I ordered the wacky saddle kit today from TW, tried it, and returned it the same day. The tubes are too big for the o'rings and if stretched they break. On the saddle part, it is not like they picture it online. It's just a flat piece of rubber joining the 2 rings with a slit in the center to put your hook through. It's a good idea, but poorly executed in terms of design and production. The other downside, my God, the price. $15.00 bucks. Save yourself the trouble and money and cross 2 in to an X of the regular o'rings from the original Wacky Tool and you can place your hook perpendicular to the bait.
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Post by GabrielImmex on Nov 9, 2020 22:40:30 GMT -5
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