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Post by Brian on Mar 17, 2011 9:14:05 GMT -5
On Monday I bought the last Koppers Live Target frog that was on the rack. No telling how many they once had at the Dick's in Keene. There is a core of serious bass fishermen in southern NH ( a few in VT too). It is the 3/4 oz. 2 5/8" model. The design is the same as Snagproof and River-2- Sea frogs but the plastic body material is thinner and more pliable than either. The hook is sharper than the others as well. Strangely, it contains no rattle device (I'll fix that). The coloration is pretty, but color matters little to me. At $9.99 it's a decent value. I'm curious how many toothy fish hits it can take....before it looks like a blown out inner tube.  |
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Post by vtbass on Mar 22, 2011 9:18:08 GMT -5
I've been drooling over those ever since I saw their ad. However, I have to keep telling myself, the pretty colors and realistic pattern means nothing to a bass in the slop. You could drag an old chunk of shag carpet over the slop and probably get the same amount of blow-ups.
99% of the lures out there are made to catch fishermen, not fish!
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Post by Brian on Mar 23, 2011 13:33:37 GMT -5
You could drag an old chunk of shag carpet over the slop and probably get the same amount of blow-ups. Add a rattle chamber to the carpet and you may get more blow ups.  |
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Post by vtbass on Mar 26, 2011 7:53:32 GMT -5
You could drag an old chunk of shag carpet over the slop and probably get the same amount of blow-ups. Add a rattle chamber to the carpet and you may get more blow ups. Hmmm, now you got me thinking, Brian. I might have to test that theory this summer, for fun! ;D |
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Post by champlainbaits on Sept 6, 2011 21:53:43 GMT -5
As a lure designer here are my thoughts on some of this...keep in mind I'm not a fish or even a tournament pro  The following is from a blog post I wrote a while back on lure design... "One of my favorite reaction baits is a black on black jig-n-pig. I believe that when a fish sees a jig-n-pig fall past them they only have a split second to decide if they will eat it. In that split second a jig-n-pig simultaneously looks like it could be a crayfish, a leech, a tadpole or even a small snapping turtle. All those things are very eatable for a fish. What the jig-n-pig doesn't do is give off many negative indicators. A fast moving black outline that is very fluid and natural in it's movements doesn't give a fish a lot of reasons to proceed with caution. That's exactly what I want in a reaction bait...I believe that the reason the fish hits has everything to do with getting all the "right" signals and none of the wrong ones. When that happens I don't think they can help but react." As for frogs I always want mine to have an off white belly...a little yellow doesn't hurt. The rest of the lure could be all white for me because I'm not worried about what the seagull is seeing |
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Post by Brian on Sept 6, 2011 23:23:13 GMT -5
So why not an all black frog? They work for me, especially when fishing over dense canopy. Honestly, I don't think for a minute that a bass really thinks it's going to have frog legs for dinner. Like you said it a reaction bite. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. BTW, I haven't had a chance to wet the Live Target Frog yet, it's been a a very strange year for us and it just keeps getting weirder.
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Post by vtbass on Sept 7, 2011 8:38:09 GMT -5
, I haven't had a chance to wet the Live Target Frog yet, it's been a a very strange year for us and it just keeps getting weirder. You got that right, Brian. It's been over a month for me now since I've been on the water.  |
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Post by jabberjaws on Sept 7, 2011 17:02:02 GMT -5
Hi all this is a great forum. I spent a day in the boat with Zell Rowland and his theory on top water has stuck with me. Basically it is that there are only a few colors of top water baits White belly, Yellow belly, Black belly and clear the rest of the bait doesn't matter to the fish. His next sentence was "But I have every color Pop-R they make."
The Live Target frogs are about as real as they come but your right they probably would hit the shag carpet also. Ramel
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Post by vtbassin on Sept 8, 2011 5:48:57 GMT -5
I remember reading somewhere in cyberspace about a guy who would pre-fish with a piece of broom handle with a screw eye in the end of it. He claimed color didn't matter and he was looking for blow-ups to locate fish for a tournament. No hooks involved to give the bass a sore lip I guess a piece of carpet would work the same way. |
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Post by opsarge on Sept 8, 2011 7:34:15 GMT -5
Years ago a friend of mine down in PA used to prefish by tying the worm directly (harder plastics back then). He never stuck fish, but located lots and worms were cheap.
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Post by jabberjaws on Sept 8, 2011 16:45:26 GMT -5
When I was fishing tournaments we would take the hooks off to prefish. Ramel
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Post by Brian on Sept 8, 2011 22:16:59 GMT -5
. I spent a day in the boat with Zell Rowland and his theory on top water has stuck with me. Basically it is that there are only a few colors of top water baits White belly, Yellow belly, Black belly and clear the rest of the bait doesn't matter to the fish. His next sentence was "But I have every color Pop-R they make." I'd wager that Zell had all of the colors not because he was sponsored (he was), but because if his co-angler started to get bit when he wasn't...........he'd be covered. |
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Post by vtbassin on Sept 9, 2011 5:52:17 GMT -5
. I spent a day in the boat with Zell Rowland and his theory on top water has stuck with me. Basically it is that there are only a few colors of top water baits White belly, Yellow belly, Black belly and clear the rest of the bait doesn't matter to the fish. His next sentence was "But I have every color Pop-R they make." I'd wager that Zell had all of the colors not because he was sponsored (he was), but because if his co-angler started to get bit when he wasn't...........he'd be covered.  More colors to keep up with the co-anglers.....There is probably a lot of truth in that... Hahahahaha |
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Post by schodackbassman on Sept 9, 2011 22:45:19 GMT -5
This is refreshing. Folks talking about bass fishing. I could get used to it.
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Post by vtbass on Sept 10, 2011 19:13:50 GMT -5
This is refreshing. Folks talking about bass fishing. I could get used to it. Pull up a chair, stay awhile ... |
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More colors to keep up with the co-anglers.....There is probably a lot of truth in that... Hahahahaha